Desert Opal (GB)
Desert Opal (GB) is 12 from 76. Hasn't won since Nov 2008. Last raced off 65, 15lb below the career-high mark.
- 12–76Wins / Runs
- 15.8%Strike rate
- 21 (27.6%)Placed
- +25.37£1 level staken=76 at SP
- 1.81Fair A/E n=76 · 1.51 incl. margin
- 80Highest OR
- 20dAvg between runs
A/E compares actual wins with what starting prices implied. "Fair" strips the bookmaker margin from the expectation, so favourites and longshots are judged on the same footing — figures near 1.00 mean the market priced this horse about right.
KTB Speed and Rating
No KTB Speed figures for this horse. The engine scores GB and Irish racing from Oct 2016; runs elsewhere, or earlier, have no figure.
KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 0 figures from 0 runs · a record, not a forecast
Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.
Run style is derived from in-running commentary, which our data provider does not supply for this horse's races.
Pedigree intelligence
Progeny in our archive have won 10.1% of 2,919 runs since Jan 2008 (203 horses).
| Going | Runs | Wins | SR | vs sire | This horse |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Firm | 30 | 1 | 3.3% | −6.8 | — |
| Good to Firm | 549 | 56 | 10.2% | +0.1 | 1 from 5 |
| Good | 636 | 58 | 9.1% | −1 | 1 from 8 |
| Good to Soft | 296 | 35 | 11.8% | +1.7 | 1 from 4 |
| Soft | 363 | 41 | 11.3% | +1.2 | 0 from 7 |
| Heavy | 93 | 9 | 9.7% | −0.4 | 0 from 1 |
| Standard (AW) | 952 | 96 | 10.1% | 0 | 9 from 51 |
| Distance (all codes) | Runs | Wins | SR | vs sire | This horse |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Under 6f | 320 | 33 | 10.3% | +0.2 | 10 from 44 |
| 6f – 7f | 1,249 | 121 | 9.7% | −0.4 | 2 from 29 |
| 1m – 1m1f | 561 | 66 | 11.8% | +1.7 | 0 from 3 |
| 1m2f – 1m4f | 389 | 41 | 10.5% | +0.4 | — |
| 1m5f – 2m | 192 | 14 | 7.3% | −2.8 | — |
| 2m1f – 2m4f | 147 | 17 | 11.6% | +1.5 | — |
| 2m5f – 3m | 46 | 3 | 6.5% | −3.6 | — |
| Over 3m | 15 | 1 | 6.7% | −3.4 | — |
Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Jan 2008 · as at 21 Oct 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast
8 siblings in the archive, 7 winners — best of them Kuanyao (IRE) (13 wins).
The wins came over 5f–7f; the highest grade won is Class 4 (Kuanyao (IRE)).
| Produce | Runs | Wins | Win trips | Best grade |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Kuanyao (IRE) | 85 | 13 | 5f–7f | Class 4 |
| Blanc De Chine (IRE) | 20 | 6 | 5f | Class 4 |
| Fast Act (IRE) | 28 | 3 | 5f | Class 4 |
| Oondiri (IRE) | 19 | 3 | 5f | Class 5 |
| Geraldines Lass (IRE) | 19 | 2 | 5f | — |
| Disguise (GB) | 9 | 1 | 6f | Class 5 |
| Whispering Desert (GB) | 10 | 1 | 5f | Class 6 |
| Existence (GB) | 4 | 0 | — | — |
Record by conditions
| Going | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Standard (AW) | 51 | 9 | 18% | +13.87 |
| Good | 8 | 1 | 13% | +5.00 |
| Soft | 7 | 0 | 0% | −7.00 |
| Good to Firm | 5 | 1 | 20% | +14.00 |
| Good to Soft | 4 | 1 | 25% | +0.50 |
| Heavy | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Class | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Class 5 | 41 | 5 | 12% | +4.62 |
| Class 6 | 24 | 7 | 29% | +31.75 |
| Class 4 | 9 | 0 | 0% | −9.00 |
| Class 3 | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| Course | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Wolverhampton (AW) | 34 | 7 | 21% | +18.87 |
| Lingfield (AW) | 6 | 0 | 0% | −6.00 |
| Kempton (AW) | 4 | 1 | 25% | +1.00 |
| Beverley | 4 | 1 | 25% | +9.00 |
| Nottingham | 4 | 1 | 25% | +15.00 |
| Southwell (AW) | 4 | 0 | 0% | −4.00 |
| Chelmsford (AW) | 3 | 1 | 33% | +4.00 |
| Haydock | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| Redcar | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| Catterick | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| York | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| Newbury | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Windsor | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Sandown | 1 | 1 | 100% | +3.50 |
| Ascot | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Yarmouth | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Newcastle | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Carlisle | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Doncaster | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Leicester | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Distance | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Under 6f | 44 | 10 | 23% | +40.87 |
| 6f – 7f | 29 | 2 | 7% | −12.50 |
| 1m – 1m1f | 3 | 0 | 0% | −3.00 |
| Jockey | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Liam Jones | 20 | 5 | 25% | +16.75 |
| Tony Culhane | 12 | 2 | 17% | +19.00 |
| Tom Queally | 7 | 0 | 0% | −7.00 |
| Philip Robinson | 4 | 1 | 25% | +0.50 |
| Robert Winston | 3 | 1 | 33% | −0.38 |
| Jamie Spencer | 3 | 2 | 67% | +16.50 |
| Phillip Makin | 3 | 0 | 0% | −3.00 |
| Luke Morris | 2 | 1 | 50% | +5.00 |
| Marc Halford | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| Jimmy Quinn | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| James O'Reilly | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Tolley Dean | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Ted Durcan | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Neil Callan | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Eddie Creighton | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Eddie Ahern | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Alan Daly | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Daragh O'Donohoe | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Adam Kirby | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Richard Thomas | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Seb Sanders | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Paul Quinn | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Andrew Elliott | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| George Baker | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Pat Cosgrave | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Amir Quinn | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Darren Williams | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Adrian Nicholls | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Headgear | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| None | 33 | 3 | 9% | +4.50 |
| Blinkers | 27 | 3 | 11% | −11.25 |
| Cheekpieces | 16 | 6 | 38% | +32.12 |
| Season | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 2009 | 4 | 0 | 0% | −4.00 |
| 2008 | 17 | 2 | 12% | −5.00 |
| 2007 | 16 | 4 | 25% | +24.25 |
| 2006 | 24 | 4 | 17% | +8.62 |
| 2005 | 15 | 2 | 13% | +1.50 |
Splits include every sample, however small — muted rows are under 3 runs. A one-from-one record is a fact, not a trend: read the Runs column before the strike rate.
Form
| Date | Course | Race | Pos | Btn | Wgt | OR | KTB | Jockey | SP |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 10 Feb 09+4d | Lingfield (AW) | Chelsea Cottage Selling Stakes | 4/5 | ½ | 9-7 | 65 | 55B | James O'Reilly | 4/1 |
| 06 Feb 09+8d | Wolverhampton (AW) | Enjoy Lucky 7 Group Offer Handicap | 4/10 | 1 | 9-4 | 65 | 79A | Liam Jones | 12/1 |
| 29 Jan 09+21d | Wolverhampton (AW) | Play Roulette at williamhill.com Handicap | 8/10 | 1½ | 8-8 | 65 | 48A | Liam Jones | 33/1 |
| 08 Jan 09+19d | Chelmsford (AW) | Blackwater Handicap | 6/8 | 2¾ | 8-10 | 66 | 47A | Liam Jones | 12/1 |
| 20 Dec 08+10d | Lingfield (AW) | Good King Wenceslas Handicap | 9/9 | 3¼ | 9-1 | 67 | 43A | Liam Jones | 14/1 |
| 10 Dec 08+21d | Kempton (AW) | Afm Services Data Centre Construction Handicap | 12/12 | 2½ | 8-10 | 67 | 42A | Liam Jones | 16/1 |
| 19 Nov 08+6d | Kempton (AW) | Book Now For Boxing Day Handicap | 1/10 | 9-2 | 63 | 80A | Liam Jones | 4/1C | |
| 13 Nov 08+70d | Chelmsford (AW) | Wild Cherry Handicap | 5/12 | 1¼ | 8-13 | 63 | 66A | Luke Morris | 16/1 |
| 04 Sep 08+12d | Chelmsford (AW) | Musco Lighting At Great Leighs Handicap | 1/12 | 9-2 | 60 | 92A | Luke Morris | 6/1 | |
| 23 Aug 08+8d | Beverley | totesport 0800 221 221 Handicap | 14/14 | 9 | 8-9 | 62 | 23C | Tolley Dean | 8/1 |
| 15 Aug 08+28d | Kempton (AW) | Book Now For Bank Holiday Handicap | 5/11 | ½ | 8-13 | 63 | 58A | Liam Jones | 12/1 |
| 18 Jul 08+4d | Newbury | Tkp Surfacing John Chappell Memorial Handicap | 6/11 | 2¼ | 9-8 | 66 | 67A | Liam Jones | 16/1 |
| 14 Jul 08+9d | Windsor | Pattonair Derby Challenge & Innovate Handicap | 6/13 | ½ | 9-4 | 66 | 73A | Ted Durcan | 16/1 |
| 05 Jul 08+31d | Haydock | Casino At bet365.com Handicap | 7/11 | ¾ | 9-6 | 69 | 65A | Robert Winston | 16/1 |
| 04 Jun 08+50d | Kempton (AW) | Donkey Harness Racing Here Next Wednesday Handicap | 4/12 | ¾ | 9-10 | 66 | 77A | Liam Jones | 20/1 |
| 15 Apr 08+38d | Nottingham | Lyfab Enterprises Handicap | 6/12 | hd | 9-4 | 70 | 69A | Philip Robinson | 6/1 |
| 08 Mar 08+12d | Wolverhampton (AW) | Every Minute Every Match Betlive At williamhill.co.uk H'cap | 6/10 | hd | 8-11 | 68 | 67A | Liam Jones | 20/1 |
| 25 Feb 08+10d | Wolverhampton (AW) | Call 0844 576 5938 For Great Pontin's Deals Handicap | 5/6 | 2½ | 8-13 | 70 | 56B | Tom Queally | 15/2 |
| 15 Feb 08+8d | Wolverhampton (AW) | A Break To Remember At Pontin's Handicap | 4/9 | ½ | 8-9 | 70 | 67A | Liam Jones | 12/1 |
| 07 Feb 08+14d | Southwell (AW) | Book Best Breaks At pontins.com Handicap | 6/6 | 2½ | 9-1 | 70 | 49B | Tom Queally | 8/1 |
| 24 Jan 08+33d | Wolverhampton (AW) | Great Value Half Term Pontin's Breaks Handicap | 3/8 | shd | 9-4 | 70 | 80A | Liam Jones | 13/2 |
| 22 Dec 07+15d | Lingfield (AW) | CWB Controls Handicap | 2/9 | 1¼ | 9-4 | 70 | 78C | Tom Queally | 11/2 |
| 07 Dec 07+13d | Wolverhampton (AW) | Pontin's Short Breaks Handicap | 5/8 | ½ | 9-2 | 72 | 68C | Tom Queally | 5/1 |
| 24 Nov 07+8d | Wolverhampton (AW) | Book A Christmas Break At Pontin's Handicap | 5/11 | 2 | 9-2 | 73 | 65C | Tom Queally | 9/1 |
| 16 Nov 07+27d | Lingfield (AW) | Book Online At lingfieldpark.co.uk Handicap | 5/9 | shd | 9-3 | 74 | 72C | Tom Queally | 14/1 |
| 20 Oct 07+14d | Wolverhampton (AW) | WBX.COM 25 Bet For New Accounts Claiming Stakes | 1/10 | 9-5 | 70 | 101C | Liam Jones | 11/4J | |
| 06 Oct 07+42d | Redcar | Shepherd Construction Handicap | 13/15 | ½ | 9-4 | 75 | 61C | Neil Callan | 13/2 |
| 25 Aug 07+31d | Beverley | totesport 0800 221 221 Handicap | 7/14 | ½ | 9-9 | 75 | 74C | Philip Robinson | 5/1J |
| 25 Jul 07+11d | Sandown | Panmure GMP Securities Handicap | 1/10 | 9-5 | 71 | 74C | Philip Robinson | 7/2J | |
| 14 Jul 07+7d | Ascot | Citywide Handicap | 4/11 | 1¾ | 9-1 | 72 | 69C | Jamie Spencer | 6/1 |
| 07 Jul 07+46d | Beverley | Hall Construction Handicap | 3/11 | 2½ | 8-9 | 72 | 74C | Liam Jones | 10/1 |
| 22 May 07+22d | Beverley | Westwood Handicap | 1/15 | 9-1 | 67 | 78C | Jamie Spencer | 12/1 | |
| 30 Apr 07+13d | Wolverhampton (AW) | betdirect.com Handicap | 4/12 | 1 | 8-2 | 72 | 68C | Marc Halford | 11/1 |
| 17 Apr 07+18d | Nottingham | Don't Miss The Countryside Evening Handicap | 1/14 | 8-8 | 63 | 74C | Liam Jones | 18/1 | |
| 30 Mar 07+62d | Wolverhampton (AW) | Pontin's - Book Early Handicap | 6/9 | ¾ | 8-12 | 72 | 54C | Liam Jones | 10/1 |
| 27 Jan 07+11d | Wolverhampton (AW) | Digital Prints bonusprint.com Handicap | 4/9 | ¾ | 9-0 | 73 | 74C | Robert Winston | 12/1 |
| 16 Jan 07+24d | Wolverhampton (AW) | pontinsbingo.com Handicap | 7/12 | hd | 8-5 | 74 | 52C | Jimmy Quinn | 12/1 |
| 23 Dec 06+16d | Wolverhampton (AW) | Go Pontin's Handicap | 1/9 | 8-8 | 65 | 76C | Robert Winston | 13/8F | |
| 07 Dec 06+10d | Wolverhampton (AW) | wbxtriplecrown.com Handicap | 1/13 | 8-12 | 62 | 77C | Liam Jones | 2/1F | |
| 27 Nov 06+24d | Wolverhampton (AW) | Twilight Racing And Dinner - Relax And Enjoy Handicap | 3/12 | ½ | 8-10 | 62 | 69C | Liam Jones | 5/1 |
| 03 Nov 06+16d | Wolverhampton (AW) | Twilight Racing - Miss The Traffic Handicap | 1/11 | 8-11 | 58 | 76C | Liam Jones | 5/1 | |
| 18 Oct 06+9d | Yarmouth | Crystal Cleaning Handicap | 8/13 | 2 | 8-12 | 58 | 48C | Eddie Creighton | 9/1 |
| 09 Oct 06+23d | Wolverhampton (AW) | Holiday Inn Dunstall Park Handicap | 2/12 | shd | 8-6 | 58 | 58C | Liam Jones | 9/1 |
| 16 Sep 06+14d | Wolverhampton (AW) | Wolverhampton-racecourse.co.uk Handicap | 10/12 | ¾ | 9-2 | 60 | 46C | Tom Queally | 14/1 |
| 02 Sep 06+2d | Wolverhampton (AW) | Get Married At Wolverhampton Racecourse Handicap | 7/13 | ½ | 9-6 | 60 | 54C | Eddie Ahern | 17/2 |
| 31 Aug 06+7d | Wolverhampton (AW) | Asda - Our People Make The Difference Handicap | 4/13 | nk | 9-8 | 60 | 69C | Alan Daly | 6/1 |
| 24 Aug 06+6d | Redcar | Best Dressed Lady Handicap | 3/16 | hd | 9-9 | 60 | 73C | Jimmy Quinn | 10/1 |
| 18 Aug 06+3d | Newcastle | Nalco Handicap | 12/15 | 4 | 9-10 | 60 | 30C | Daragh O'Donohoe | 8/1 |
| 15 Aug 06+20d | Nottingham | nottinghamracecourse.co.Uk Handicap | 2/11 | ¾ | 9-5 | 60 | 55C | Philip Robinson | 5/1 |
| 26 Jul 06+11d | Lingfield (AW) | Furlongs & Fairways Handicap (AWT) | 7/12 | 1¼ | 9-2 | 61 | 53C | Adam Kirby | 25/1 |
| 15 Jul 06+43d | Lingfield (AW) | Play Bingo At ladbrokes.com Handicap | 9/11 | 1 | 9-5 | 62 | 47C | Richard Thomas | 8/1 |
| 02 Jun 06+6d | Wolverhampton (AW) | Combine Business With Pleasure Selling Stakes | 2/13 | 1½ | 9-12 | 62 | 72C | Seb Sanders | 9/2 |
| 27 May 06+9d | Catterick | totesport 0800 221 221 Handicap | 10/17 | 3 | 9-2 | 63 | 61C | Paul Quinn | 10/1 |
| 18 May 06+9d | Carlisle | Book Now For Music Night 8th July Handicap | 5/17 | nk | 8-9 | 61 | 64C | Tony Culhane | 7/1 |
| 09 May 06+7d | Catterick | 'Joseph M Ladies Night' Handicap | 2/14 | 1½ | 8-11 | 62 | 74C | Tony Culhane | 9/1 |
| 02 May 06+29d | Southwell (AW) | Experience Nottinghamshire Handicap | 7/11 | nk | 8-10 | 62 | 49C | Phillip Makin | 25/1 |
| 03 Apr 06+3d | Southwell (AW) | On Turf On 25th Handicap | 6/12 | 2½ | 9-7 | 57 | 56C | Tony Culhane | 6/1 |
| 31 Mar 06+15d | Wolverhampton (AW) | Enjoy Racing From The Zongalero Restaurant Handicap | 1/12 | 8-10 | 57 | 76C | Tony Culhane | 20/1 | |
| 16 Mar 06+10d | Southwell (AW) | First Past The Post At Betdirect Handicap | 7/10 | ¾ | 8-8 | 60 | 65C | Phillip Makin | 20/1 |
| 06 Mar 06+60d | Wolverhampton (AW) | classicvaluepools.com Selling Stakes | 5/11 | hd | 8-12 | 62 | 54C | Tony Culhane | 10/1 |
| 05 Jan 06+20d | Wolverhampton (AW) | Dine At Dunstall Park Selling Stakes | 4/11 | hd | 9-2 | 65 | 55C | Tony Culhane | 8/1 |
| 16 Dec 05+14d | Wolverhampton (AW) | Betdirect.co.uk Selling Stakes | 6/10 | 3 | 9-5 | 68 | 40C | Tony Culhane | 7/2J |
| 02 Dec 05+27d | Wolverhampton (AW) | Text 'Betdirect' To 88600 Handicap (Div 1) | 10/12 | 1¼ | 9-3 | 69 | 41C | Tony Culhane | 8/1 |
| 05 Nov 05+49d | Doncaster | Apprentice Handicap | 22/22 | 2 | 8-2 | 75 | 58C | Marc Halford | 25/1 |
| 17 Sep 05+14d | Wolverhampton (AW) | Alan Bennett Butchers Handicap | 1/13 | 8-12 | 64 | 66C | Jamie Spencer | 11/2 | |
| 03 Sep 05+7d | Wolverhampton (AW) | Betfredcasino.com Handicap | 1/12 | 8-13 | 57 | 72C | Tony Culhane | 9/1 | |
| 27 Aug 05+35d | York | Charles Henry Memorial Handicap | 10/20 | shd | 8-1 | 68 | 56C | Andrew Elliott | 50/1 |
| 23 Jul 05+15d | Nottingham | Rotary Club Of Wortley Centenary Classified Stakes | 5/7 | 4 | 9-8 | 70 | 66C | George Baker | 12/1 |
| 08 Jul 05+7d | York | Hearthstead Homes Handicap | 6/16 | nk | 8-13 | 73 | 70C | Tony Culhane | 33/1 |
| 01 Jul 05+29d | Wolverhampton (AW) | Thoroughbred Rehabilitation Centre Handicap | 13/13 | 1 | 9-4 | 65 | 37C | Pat Cosgrave | 33/1 |
| 02 Jun 05+47d | Haydock | Lookers Renault Handicap | 15/15 | 1½ | 9-11 | 75 | 31C | Tony Culhane | 25/1 |
| 16 Apr 05+9d | Wolverhampton (AW) | Apprentice Handicap | 10/13 | 1¾ | 9-10 | 67 | 48C | Amir Quinn | 16/1 |
| 07 Apr 05+14d | Leicester | Handicap | 4/13 | 1¾ | 9-1 | 78 | 73C | Phillip Makin | 25/1 |
| 24 Mar 05+12d | Wolverhampton (AW) | Press Red To Bet On ITV Handicap | 11/11 | 1 | 9-0 | 70 | 46C | Darren Williams | 66/1 |
| 12 Mar 05+64d | Wolverhampton (AW) | Channel 4 Page 613 Handicap Div 1 | 10/10 | 24 | 8-10 | 75 | 33C | Adrian Nicholls | 66/1 |
| 07 Jan 05 | Wolverhampton (AW) | betdirect.co.uk Conditions Stakes | 11/12 | 13 | 9-0 | 80 | 36C | Tony Culhane | 100/1 |
Quick answers
- How many races has Desert Opal (GB) won?
- Desert Opal (GB) won 12 of 76 archived starts between 2005 and 2009, a strike rate of 15.8%. Placed 21 times in total (27.6% of starts).
- Who trained Desert Opal (GB)?
- Desert Opal (GB) was trained by Conor Dore on the most recent run on record, at Lingfield (AW) on 10 February 2009.
- Who is Desert Opal (GB)'s sire?
- Desert Opal (GB) is by Cadeaux Genereux (GB) out of Nullarbor (GB), whose sire is Green Desert.
- What going does Desert Opal (GB) prefer?
- Desert Opal (GB) has the best record on good to soft going: 1 win from 4 starts (25%). Only going bands with at least three archived starts are read, so this is a direction rather than a settled preference.
- What is Desert Opal (GB)'s official rating?
- The most recent official rating on record is 65, from the run on 10 February 2009. The highest on record is 80.
- What is Desert Opal (GB)'s sire's record?
- Cadeaux Genereux (GB)'s progeny in our archive have won 10.1% of 2,919 runs since Jan 2008 (203 horses), Flat and jumps together.
- Who are Desert Opal (GB)'s siblings?
- Out of Nullarbor (GB), Desert Opal (GB) has 8 other produce in our archive, 7 of them winners. Most wins: Kuanyao (IRE) (13). Highest grade won: Class 4 (Kuanyao (IRE)). The wins came over 5f–7f. As at Oct 2026.